Friday, 28 June 2013

the agenda

I recently had a little disagreement with my brother about what was the "agenda" of gay-rights folks. I wasn't really looking for this, but saw it in an article I was reading about the recent Supreme Court decision and thought I should share it here rather than go back to his blog and go on about it there, as I don't think it's very polite to go into somebody else's house and stir up trouble.
Anyway, Wil, here's an example.

gay rights activist Masha Gessen recently declared to shouts of acclamation at a GLBT event that the goal of those seeking the right to “gay marriage” is actually to destroy the family altogether:
I agree it’s a no-brainer that we should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist. . . . That causes my brain some trouble, and part of it why it causes me trouble is because fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there, you know, because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie. The institution of marriage is going to change and it should change. And again I don’t think it should exist.6

article here

Anyway, I'm not trying to start a "thing" - I'm too tired for that - but it's easier to put the quote here than to try to find it later if I *do* want to start something.

ah, the speech was in May 2012.


Wil said...

A few observations:

One, I don't know the context in which this was said, but I'll assume it was in the context of *government* sanctioned marriage, rather than church-sanctioned. If so, I agree that there should be no "institution of marriage" as far as the government is concerned, and I've long said that the government shouldn't be involved in any marriage, gay or straight.

But it kinda has to be involved, since people can't agree on who gets what when they divorce. And there are so many other involvements -- retirement benefits, health benefits, death notifications.

Two, I'd be very, very surprised if this one person's opinion represents the opinion of every gay person, or even a majority, or even a large minority.

Regardless of what I'd be surprised by, it is certain that none of us can correctly predict the outcome of coming legal changes. A hundred years ago, when American workers (just as an example) won rights to better conditions, higher wages, shorter weeks, etc., no one could have predicted that the end result would be moving most of our manufacturing jobs to other countries.

MamaOlive said...

I appreciate your thoughtful comments.

Anonymous said...

Re Gay issue, I believe in marriage between a man and a woman only and I think it is utterly despicable to give any credence to, sanctify, provide laws for, benefits for anyone just because of what they do in their bed. That is all it is and what is happening now is leading and will continue to lead us down a horrible slippery slope to another Sodom and Gomorrah.

May not happen in my lifetime but what do you think will happen when someone sues the government saying, "you let two women marry, you let two men marry, then I want to marry my sister or my father so I can be covered by their health insurance or benefit from other legal xxx." Trust me, it will happen. jcr